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Paul Metzger

Paul Metzger may just be one of the finest American instrumentalists alive today. His newest album “Deliverance,” released this month on Locust Music, is a mind-blowing epic of modified-21-string-banjo improvisations. Metzger’s skill and genre-defying sound manages to place him in a realm somewhere far beyond mere-psychedelia, into the world of universal musical-dialogue, where the mind struggles to place what it’s hearing, be it Appalachian folk, or Classical Indian raga, or some sort of progged-out weirdness.

Don’t let your definition-biased mind fool you. To simply call Metzger’s music an “East-meets-West” type situation would be far too simplistic, and miss the nuances Metzger brings to his own unique style of playing. There’s something much deeper at work in his songs, something exciting and frustratingly ineffable. A quick glace at any of Metzger’s live performances on YouTube will back up such bold declarations. Better yet, check out any of his fine records, which include a split with Ben Chasny and Sunburned Hand of the Man drummer Chris Corsano on Roaratorio.

A veteran of the Minneapolis/St. Paul music scene, Metzger played for a number of years in the cult favorite experimental rock-trio TVBC, a band that, rather awesomely, released its own soundtrack to the 1929 classic silent film “The Man With the Movie Camera.” I spoke with Metzger about his decision to play solo, about several musicians he holds dear, and his composing and recording processes.
 

First of all, I was wondering when and how you got started modifying your instruments. Any particular inspiration or reason for this?
The gradual evolution of my acoustic guitar and banjo started in the ‘80s. Removing frets and adding tuners for extra strings at first. It was experimentation without any goal other than to hear something unexpected. I took most inspiration from Indian instruments like the sarod and sitar.
 

It's not only remarkable how similar your banjo sounds to such Indian instruments on "Deliverance," but the compositions of the songs themselves seem to have a close kinship to Indian ragas. Have you had any formal education with classical Indian music?
No training other than quite a few Indian records that set me off in that direction a long time ago. I’ve done a lot of deep listening to music from that part of the world and some of that comes through on these pieces that I’ve recorded for Locust. I like to take my time to develop themes and explore things. I have some Indian instruments that I play these days, mostly sarod and tabla. I adore the surbahar and vina. I was never interested in formal training though.
 

How did "Deliverance" come about? Did Locust approach you to make a record, or did you send it to them? With that, do you see the three tracks on the record as connected, or more a collection of unrelated pieces?
Dawson from Locust and I emailed back and forth for a while. Eventually we chatted on the phone and I found that his vibe was real good. We have similar outlooks on recorded music. We agreed to do a banjo release so I recorded the three tracks one evening. I sent them to him and he dug it right off. The three tracks are not related. They are compositions that I have been developing for some time and wanted to document. I thought that they would hold together well as an album. My approach to recording them was very simple. I played straight on through with no second takes.
 

Do you do all of your own recording then?
No – I have a friend, David Onnen that is very good at recording. He did my first LP for Mutant Music and Deliverance. I recorded Three Improvisations in Duluth with Eric Swanson. I’ve done some recording on my own but I play better when someone else is dealing with microphones and levels and such. I prefer to sit and play without thinking of anything but the music.
 

What inspired you to start recording and playing solo, having played in TVBC for so many years? With that, is TVBC still together?
Everything flowed from a conversation with my friend Erik Wivinus in 2004. I was doubtful that anyone would be interested in hearing my solo playing. It was something that I had been doing for decades but for myself only. Erik was very encouraging and convinced me to play out. I adore it and am grateful to him for that. My trio touched on many of the ideas that I am pursuing now but it is no longer together. A moody reclusive loner such as myself is better off as a soloist.
 

In spite of being a "moody recluse," you have begun to perform live as a solo artist. How is the live performance aspect different solo than it was with the band? Also, do you attempt to recreate the pieces from your records, or is each show a different improvisational performance?
The best part of performing solo is being able change directions instantly mid-piece. If I catch a glimpse of something, I love to be free to head down the rabbit hole. Maybe there's nothing down there but that doesn't matter much to me because I may end up with 15 seconds of something unexpected. The compositions that I've written are starting points that I use in live performance and recording. I approach them without too much expectation. There are certain areas that I know to be fruitful within each piece but I strive to get off the path.
 

You are based out of Minneapolis, is that correct? Do you feel that your environment informs your music in any way?
I live in Saint Paul, Minnesota. I stay home a lot so my environment is pretty much my house. I’m not that keyed-in to where I am as far as a city goes.
 

What inspires you musically, then? Earlier you mentioned some Indian records that affected you. Would you mind sharing which ones they are? What else do you listen to that you feel influences your work?
I love the sitar playing of Nikhil Banerjee. He can bring things down to the thinnest thread. The note breaks down to only the highest harmonic remaining, which he then bends as it dissolves. That is something truly that influences my playing. The Indian instrument, the surbahar, is an inspiration for me lately. I mostly have recordings by Imrat Khan. It is very hard to put into words but the low end of that instrument cuts right into my soul. Django Reinhardt is another player that I love. His dynamics, pure verve and mastery amaze and inspire me. The singing of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and his Qawwali transcends. It's odd to list off these artists like this - it seems to diminish what they mean to me. I'm also very taken with free players. Especially drummers. Milo Fine and Davu Seru are two that inspire.
 

I certainly don't mean to diminish any meaning these artists have for you in asking about them, rather I find your ability to flesh out these influences in your work quite remarkable. Other American improv/instrumental musicians claim to be influenced by Indian music, but it seems much more effortlessly integrated in your music. I personally was curious what you might recommend, as I (and I may not be alone here) at times feel a bit daunted by the vastness that is traditional Indian music cannon. So thank you for sharing! As far as your own recordings, is there any piece or album you are the most proud of and/or happy with?
I was just feeling weird about mentioning those cats because of the über personal affinity I have for them. Words often fail me with stuff like that and then I end up feeling like a dork. But, yes, there are tons of North and South Indian classical music recordings out there. I don’t claim any expertise or go hunting around much myself - my main recommendations would be recordings of surbahar or vina. You really can’t go wrong somehow with those instruments. As far as my own recordings go, I would say that they all have in them one or two brief moments that kill me. The title track for deliverance has some passages that transcend what I feel I can do; it’s like listening to someone else play in a way. So it’s those little unexpected bits that float by that make me the happiest.
 

"Deliverance" comes out later this month, and then you have 2 more recordings waiting in the wings, one coming out on the Roaratorio label and one on Freedom. Could you talk a little bit about the specifics of these records? How do they differ from your past records?
The Roaratorio label is putting out an LP of mine titled “Gedanken Splitter”. The cover art is a pen and ink drawing my great grandfather, Max Kleiter, made in 1900. The pieces on this recording are more aggressive in nature. They’re compositions that stem mostly from my electric playing. The other recording is a cassette tape of an unaccompanied improvisation based on Monk’s “Bemsha Swing”. It’s a tune that I’ve always loved but it is usually rendered in a swinging way that I don’t dig. I try to approach it from the inside out.
 

Do you have any touring plans, or any impetus to tour?
Yes. I will be doing some shows in the east in early November. I love that whole thing of playing in a different town. Maybe two or three folks dig what I’m doing and that is more than enough for me. I toured a bit behind “Three Improvisations” in ‘05 and it was great. There are still a few people interested in live performance and I feel lucky to be able to get around to play for them. I would like to play a bit on the West Coast this winter and have fantasies of touring Europe in the spring.
 

I’m curious, as you made a short statement in your last reply about not many people watching live music anymore. Is this something you've noticed in general? Why do you think this is?
’ve been performing off and on since the mid-‘70s - chasing the long-forms - not the most crowd-pleasing endeavor. So, I am not the best judge of what’s happening with audiences in general. But there are lots of things that people can do other than attend a small venue's musical offering. Most of those things weren't around 20 years ago. I'm always grateful when folks turn out for a show. Now more than ever. Even if it's just a handful.
 

What do you hope listeners take away from your music, both live and on record?
Now we step off into the deepest fantasy... My hope is that someone might love the recordings that I've made... the same way I've loved recordings others have made. The same with live performance. A grandiose thought, I know.
 

Well, hopefully your music will receive the attention it deserves. I know quite a few people who have really enjoyed "Deliverance" after playing it for them.

Thanks for everything, I think that's all the questions I have for you. It's been a pleasure talking to you! Do you have any last comments?
Thank you for being interested in what a guy in Saint Paul plays on a banjo.
 
-- Jon Pitt (24 October, 2007)

reviews related to Paul Metzger....
Paul Metzger "Gedanken Splitter" Not Metzger's best... review :: by P. Somniferum (12 November, 2008)
Paul Metzger "Deliverance" Locust unleashes this absolute gem... review :: by Jon Pitt (26 September, 2007)
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